Google is excelling again - as the whole “uncensored” Big-Tech IT now.
The short summary is that for nearly a year, Google was hiding Proton Mail from search results for queries such as ‘secure email’ and ‘encrypted email’. This was highly suspicious because Proton Mail has long been the world’s largest encrypted email provider.
The real sane option would be nationalization of google under some international body, not breaking it up, or leaving it, and just waiting the market just centralizing itself around some other company that will repeat what google has become and done.
They need to be broken up. ESP YouTube should be its own service
Yes, but it still would be only a momentary stop AND it would create worse service, because many google products are uncompetitive in themselves and can only exist because google steals everybody’s data through these platforms and sells it to advertisers. Like how much does google pay for youtube servers to keep running and how much would it cost for the users for the same thing and it to not be part of google. Every google alternative would either have to be worse service or be subscription based. I know I’m a devils advocate here, but still.
YouTube is not competitive?
Not on it’s own, I recall. it carries it’s weight inside google’s ecosystem, but outside it, it wouldn’t make economic sense to keep that many servers streaming video all over the world with just add youtube internal add revenue and premium subscriptions. The data harvesting is a big part of it.
I don’t think you understand what a monopoly is and how operates lol
No, that’s an insane option. Look at how the government runs other services and ask yourself if you really want Google to be run that way:
Do you really think the government is capable of running something like Google if they can’t even keep up with tax returns?
No, nationalizing it would likely just make things worse, breaking them up makes a lot more sense.
Government should stick to things where it can actually make a difference a commercial company can’t, like welfare programs, policing, etc.
On today’s episode of “underfund government agencies so we can argue govt doesnt work and privatization is bae”
Are you suggesting that this time would be different? The reason things are inefficient and crappy isn’t particularly relevant, just that they are and adding to that mess isn’t going to suddenly make it better.
I said what I said. Properly fund shit and put people in charge that understand it instead of politically charged appointees.
Big tech has done nothing but hemmorage money and make everything worse, why are you celebrating them instead of calling it busted when they do it?
Big tech has been making money hand over fist, especially Google. If you want to know how Alphabet (Google’s parent) is doing financially, you can look at their financial statements, but basically they’re making tons of profit.
The thing that’s busted isn’t that they’re unable to turn a profit, but because they’re so obsessed with profit that they’re breaking anti-trust law. Breaking them up should help competitors and eliminate a lot of the issues that have been created due to their anti-competitive behavior. Nationalizing it would likely just result in the service sucking after a few years, and may encourage lawmakers to protect it from competitors. It’s a lot easier to break up a commercial company than a government agency.
Google has, Google isn’t the only tech company.
Google also wouldn’t survive being broken up. Their entire business model revolves around the strangleholds they have. Somebody would absolutely pick up the search product if it went under and I’d rather it be public than owned by another Musk who will just decide that only fox news and breitbart can be displayed on the first few pages.
Some things SHOULD be publicly owned, in everybody’s best interests.
Some things, sure, but I think that list of things is fairly small and completely unrelated to services Google provides. I don’t want government anywhere near something as important to free speech as search.
And I think Google would be just fine, they’d just have to adjust their business model a bit. That means they’d probably have to raise/introduce prices to certain services to make them viable. For example:
Each of Google’s businesses is absolutely viable on its own, but if they can’t be sold together, they’d have to adjust some prices down and other prices up, which is good for competition.
Brave Search and Brave browser is my favorite.
I don’t think it’ll be that easy. Once people have to pay (or the functionality is reduced to compensate) there are plenty of alternatives waiting to provide better products for the same price if not better. The Google singularity depends on being a whole suite of premium product being offered for free, once that’s gone it won’t have the same oomph as a brand.
How do you feel about Musk owning Twitter? Because that’s (depressingly) considered important to free speech, but the “free speech” crowd happens to cheer as Brosef openly censors things he doesn’t like and promotes baseless falsehoods and whatever else tickles his whims. I don’t want to assume you’re in that camp, but 9 out of 10 “Keep govt out of my free speech” folk tend to celebrate Musk’s particular brand of it and consider it “free speech” when he censors but oppression if it’s done to somebody who agrees with them.
Do you think search would be free and open under the ownership of some private equity group or another billionaire with money to burn like Musk? Hell, do you think it’s free and open NOW under Alphabet? They play dirty ALLLLLL the fucking time with search. If we brought Google (or some other search engine, or hell built a new one) under a government team we could just…pay the engineering team to build and maintain a product without all the games of profit and clout chasing that gives you relevant results instead of specifically engineered middling results designed explicitly to make you have to run another search (and all the other crap they do.)